I've pulled out of Flash Europe
I finally managed to talk to someone from FlashEurope today. I got a phone call from Harold, the organizer of the event, after someone gave him a link to my earlier post. That post was written after not being able to reach anyone at Flash Europe for over a month and after reading Peter Elst's post on the topic (and being contacted by Peter and Owen that they had not had any luck reaching anyone either).
Instead of an apology or an explanation, I listened as I was angrily (and wrongly) accused of "hurting the conference" by (1) Posting, last year, the list of Flash Europe speakers before it was announced on the site, (2) Making up a fictional friend who was called and warned by the credit card processing company taking payments for FlashEurope last November (a post I later removed after a plea by Harold that they were handling things and that the credit card processing company was mistaken), (3) of not removing the post because you can still find it on FullAsAGoog and, finally, (4) of being the only person who has a problem with the way things are being organized.
My responses, quite plainly, are thus:
(1) I did not publish the list of FlashEurope Speakers on FlashAnt, ever. In my one and only post on the subject, made after the list was officially announced, I linked to aSH's post of the list.
(2) I am happy for her sake that the person in question does in fact exist. Her name is Niqui Merret and I will ask her to post her story in the comments shortly.
(3) I did remove the post after I promised Harold I would. I have this nasty habit of doing things that I tell people I will do. It's bad, I know! Unfortunately, I do not run FullAsAGoog and have no control over how it caches post summaries from the RSS. If you do a search for "Flash Europe" on FullAsAGoog, you will see a link to the post "What is happening with Flash Europe?" with a summary as it originally appeared. However, if you click on it, you will get a post with the following message.
(4) I am definitely not the only one who has a problem with the way this conference is being organized. Even though we had tried unsuccessfully to reach someone -- anyone -- at FlashEurope for *over a month* by email. Actually, I just checked and Emilie alone sent 5 emails since November -- to Harold's email at FlashEurope, info at,speaker at and finally registration at FlashEurope. All have gone unanswered. Perhaps somewhat naively (and perhaps because I was/am busy with so much else), I was still hopeful that someone would contact me. Then, just recently Peter Elst emailed me to say that he could not reach anyone either and actually blogged about it. Following this, Owen called me and mentioned that he hadn't been able to reach anyone recently either.
In response to Peter's post, an attendee posted the following comment:
"Anyway, I wanted to comment because I paid for my registration, got NO confirmation, and I am now finding that registration@flasheurope.com is being BOUNCED from a host called uvision.net."
According to Harold, this is "not true".
Here are a couple of other testimonials from the mailing list I set up yesterday so speakers could talk about this issue. You can see the archives yourself here.
"Hi, my name is Xavi Beumala and I'm (maybe was) one of the speakers from 5dms.com
I'm from Barcelona and I've been several times with Harold having a coffee. But for the last month and a half I've been trying to contact him without any luck... He has disapeared!
I implemented the blog (which was never used) and implemented the flashEurope contest web (wich also was never used! ouch!). . ."
"Hi to All!
I'm Carlos Rovira from Madrid (Spain) and I'm a Speaker. I couldn't get in touch with the organization : (
I've posted about it at http://www.carlosrovira.com/index.php?p=212&more=1&c=1
Hope it all ends well."
"Hello all ! :)
Thanx to Aral for setting up this list.
Francis Bourre"
"I second that, thanks Aral! Great to see you here as well Francis, have any other speakers or attendees signed up yet?
All the best,Peter"
"Yes, I'm here. Anyone bet on flasheurope will be ? I have a queasy feeling
about.
Andr� Michelle"
The reasons I was given for not being able to reach the organizational committee ranged from "Christmas break" to "I'm traveling the world trying to get help" to "I'm trying work together with Media Elements" to "we have a small committee" to "we are trying to get sponsorship from Macromedia." I can empathize that it must be difficult to organize a conference with a small team of people but, then again, this is not an excuse for not responding to speakers and attendees -- especially when people have already paid to buy tickets and attend and after changing the conference date once already. If anything, the committee should have been twice as careful with damage control after the date change and redoubled their efforts to win back the trust of their speakers and attendees.
The people I have been talking to -- both speakers and attendees -- are worried and I felt it was my duty as someone who had lent his name (and thereby his endorsement) to the conference to air these concerns with the hope that someone would take corrective action.
That has not happened.
In light of this, I have decided to pull out of FlashEurope and will not be speaking at it.
I do hope, with all my heart, that the conference *does* happen and I hope that this was just a temporary lapse in communication. I wish the FlashEurope team the best of luck in organizing the conference.
Comments
They can't get hold of the organisers. They were concerned for the people who had purchased tickets. They were unsure as to when/if the event would continue.
by niqui on 2005-01-24 13:43:57
damn it, i took the chance of the last "early registration"
on jan 16th. i've transfered the money. nothing happens
until today. i've tried to reach (via email/fax/phone) someone at flasheurope or meta media studios (http://me-ta.com/)
does anyone have the email and address of harald (the organizer himself).. has meta media studios something to do with him?
i'm really really pissed and i want my money back.
it seems that i have to take legal steps.
oli
by oliver blaum on 2005-02-02 08:23:56
I was supposed to speak at the conference also, even if they mispelled my name as "Philippo" (funny indeed!)
The mailbox "speaker@flasheurope.com" is not active anymore.
I posted the same messages to all mailboxes available but still didnt receive any answer...
bah...
Guys, lots of projects coming on.... I will not stress me to get ready for the conference also... since they do not reply... I guess the conference is not happening anymore!
Why in europe we are so lousy with conferences? Flash Parade canceled, and Flasheurope... a ghost!!!
good vibes
Filippo
by Filippo Gregoretti on 2005-02-04 11:44:27
Only person we have been in touch with is this Udo Thoennissen, who even called us after we sent an e-mail about how we could register
His email had a phone number in it, which we called one week after doing a money transfer
T: + 34 93 4545933
That phone was never answered but shortly after calling we got a confirmation e-mail from this Udo that the payment was received well.
Just now we begin to see all the negative experiences other people have and we're getting really worried.
We were really looking forward to this so we hope it is all going to work out in the end, but things are not looking too good :(
by Preset on 2005-02-05 11:12:11
Don't know what to think. We'll just keep our fingers crossed.
by Preset on 2005-02-05 11:39:40
by Igor Volk on 2005-02-07 10:01:43
by Aral Balkan on 2005-02-07 13:40:38
just wanted to let you know that this morning I received an email from someone at UAB ( Barcelona University), where Flash Europe was supposed to be held at, saying that they haven't been able to contact Harold or anyone else from FE. Therefore, they have cancelled the meeting rooms reservation. The author says that she sent the email because was unable to comment in this post, so I'm pasting the entire content below. The mail was forwaded to Craig as well, so hopefully he'll be able to spot some light on this.
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Dear all,
Last July we received the request of Flash Europe to place their 2004
meeting in our facilities and met Harold Polo personally. On september 2004,
the dates of the meeting were moved to March 2005. We confirmed our
availability and interest to held this Event. After some time without
emails, nither phone calls and the total lack of communication from Flash
Europe' part, last december 2004 we have been forced to cancel all the
meeting rooms reservation and we have not heard about HAROLD POLO so far.
So please, be advised that as far as we are concerned the Flash Europe
Meeting next march is not happening in our Campus. Thank you.
We hope this will clear some of the questions you had.
PS.As I cannot post my coment, I am sending an email to all ouf you.
We remain at your disposal, Kindest Regards,
Agencia de Promocio d'Activitats i Congressos - UAB Campus
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by Daniel Aguilar on 2005-02-09 13:45:10
It looks blatently dodgy with the lack of contact and emails being bounced etc etc, think i'm gonna try to go to Flash Forward 2005 instead.
by on 2005-02-21 10:04:47
the homepage was redesigned... but strange thing still no feedback by the organizers.
now there's even a newsletter. but i receive a message quota full.
i want my money back. they didn't do anything, no mail, no fax, no telephone responds. i think i have to take legal steps,
does anybody else got the same problem?
has anybody a working address? e.g. harald polo?
i've send a letter to meta media studios, comte borrell 122, 08015 barcelona, spain
oli
by oliver blaum on 2005-02-24 12:03:50
To begin... I'm sorry that my english isn't so good... I also want my money back, but the money that I payed to Harold Angulo Polo for a flat (that surprisingly is in comte borrell 122, Barcelona. Where he has his company Meta Media Studios and also IQ Networks). He rented to us (erasmus students) this flat for two months cause he was going to Germany, and we payed him the two months plus 1 moth of "fianza" (i don't know how to translate this...)when we entered the flat. So he went to Germany and after 1 week came to the flat the owner of the flat and told us that Harold didn't pay the rent since the last 8 months... We tried to get in contact with him cause he gave us a telephone number, but he never answers. We got also an email adress and we wrote him many times, but he didn't answer... He readed our emails cause we wrote our telephone in them and he called us (of course, from a public telephone). The problem is that he calls but just for that you know that he is alive, cause he tells that he can't speak at that time, but he'll call the same afternoon... Then in that afternoon you wait for his call, but he never calls... So... I just wanted that everybody knows that this man is cheating everybody: the owner of the flat in comte borrell 122 1º 1ª of Barcelona, to us the students, to all of the people who wanted to go to this Flasheurope meeting and probably to many other people. If somebody has some news about this man please tell me how to get in contact with him. Thanks
by airun on 2005-03-14 12:31:50
The Guy who fooled us all and took our Money.
Any Clue where he is? We must take legal steps.
Oli
by oliver on 2005-03-15 16:14:18
by airun on 2005-03-18 08:59:21
by Martin on 2005-03-22 07:05:04
by airun on 2005-03-22 17:25:01
Hi everyone,
I am Udo Thoennissen, the person you mentioned who apparently sent you invitations and called you in relation with Flasheurope. Friends adviced me that my name appears in this site and I am terrified to read your experiences with Harold Angulo and his conference. I lived with him in a flat in c/Comte Borrell 122 for a few months till september 2004, because I was studying a master course at UIC Barcelona. As I was all day in school I didn't know exactly what this man was doing. I left the flat because he stole me a big amount of money and other things but I can't bring it to proof. Now I realize that he never paid the rent of the flat that I paid him. I left Barcelona and returned to Germany.
I have to say you that I have NOTHING to do with Flasheurope. Harold is using my name for his fraudulent business.
Since weeks I am trying to get in contact with him per phone to recover some of my things, but without success. I guess that he is still living in c/Comte Borrell 122, 1.1a, that he mentions as registered office of Flasheurope. At the moment I'm not able to contact him neither.
I hope that this story will end up well and that all of you get your money back.
Udo
by Udo on 2005-04-04 09:05:07
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